Gen V - The Boys Spinoff

[Jeebus]

lets just enjoy what we have for now. we still got 5 more episodes to watch and then we'll see how it goes.

Believe me, I'm trying. Still very much enjoying the character and almost finished episode 3.

Honestly, I'm way more disappointed that they don't have her voice at all realistically high-pitched than the nudity factor.

[Aussie_Lurker]

Wow, so many Debbie Downers in this thread, always haooy to see the glass as "half empty". Yeah, the lack of nudity bummed me out too, but this was still amazing.

[ROGU3_20]

Wow, so many Debbie Downers in this thread, always haooy to see the glass as "half empty". Yeah, the lack of nudity bummed me out too, but this was still amazing.

Right? lets just be happy we got something. Especially since new shrinking and giant content are scarce. and cuz of the strike, no one has gotten to even make projects based on such.

since the writer's strike just gotten a deal made, i hope the actors get one too by monday.

[Jeebus]

I'll admit, the hype tempered my expectations. What we got so far is pretty damned good for a mainstream show, and the acting has been great. We'll most likely have some new visitors here.

I'm still looking forward to the next episodes. Here's hoping that they saved the best for last.

[ailyn]

I understand wanting to be positive ans all but I just really don't understand why she's not naked. It doesn't make any sense. She shrinks down for the guy, but then decides to run off and put custom made tiny underwear on to have sex? I feel like the Boys show universe just has a mandate to not show/limit female nudity and it's frustrating. Feels like a (pardon the pun) cocktease.

[DocRick]

That looks like hard work. You would think he would give her a hand.............

[Raso719]

I do like how her shoes are clearly barbie shoes that don't fit well in thay scene. Honesty I'm trying to figure out where she might have gotten clothes small enough for her scene in the episode where she had the microchip with her custom made maybe?

Anyway, one thing I'm hoping to see moving forward is a torrent of trend chasing tiktok girls doing videos where they spoof off the idea of shrinking or being small. I don't care how cringey. I've been crafting stories ideas about cringey tiktok shrink challenges for a while now and this might just be my time.

[Raso719]

On second thought, the weight loss world seems to have co-opted the shrinking tag on social media (ironic considering how our new best girl shrinks). So savvy content creators might decide its not worth fighting for algorithmic dominance.

[DRSHRINKER]

The Wife is at work, and so so is my Son.
House to myself, and just downloading this.
Going to be a good Night.

[eddiegiantman]

On second thought, the weight loss world seems to have co-opted the shrinking tag on social media (ironic considering how our new best girl shrinks). So savvy content creators might decide its not worth fighting for algorithmic dominance.

They still might do it, just ignore the weight loss stuff, after all, this is the Boys, where many ignore the messy to acknowledge the cool.

[Sdk]

I never thought I'd see the day where a tiny woman rode a giant cock on an actual show.

[Raso719]

I never thought I'd see the day where a tiny woman rode a giant cock on an actual show.

Yeah. Strange and exciting times. Anime has done all sorts of weird fetish shit and made it the entire plot of an series. It's nice we are finally seeing something on mainstream American television.

[Dr.Minimizer]

I never thought I'd see the day where a tiny woman rode a giant cock on an actual show.

This, so much this...

I know it's not everybody's cup of tea and many were wishing for female nudity but let's not forget what we just witnessed...an actual mainstream SW scene! This is a subject that up until just now nobody (outside of pigeonhole fetish porn) has ever attempted to tackle in public. Rejoice and enjoy what may be our "50 Shades of Grey" moment where size changing fantasies finally come out of the darkness.

As a result of this scene seeing daylight, we might see more SW, not just in this show but across the entertainment spectrum. How many movie fans complain regularly that there's nothing new out there in Hollywood? Well here is something new just waiting to be used, and perhaps someone will sit up and take notice. A movie about a man who shrinks women and makes them into sex toys? A remake of Dr. Cyclops but with more graphic scenes and nudity? A revival of Land of the Giants where they don't hold anything back? Until just now I would've never thought these things could ever happen, but now...well for the first time in my life I believe they actually could.

[Sdk]

Maybe she'll hook up with a coed who has a shrink kink.

But, yeah, hopefully this opens up some possibilities.

[Little Sally]

Maybe she'll hook up with a coed who has a shrink kink.

But, yeah, hopefully this opens up some possibilities.

Yes, you can live in hope, but you know what they say about that, right?
It's the hope that kills ya! Lol!

Seems to me it's one of those things (this series) that's slipped under the radar of the feminist movements, so far at least. So I wouldn't be counting my chickens anything better will develop from it. And as far as the penis scene is concerned (which I thought was quite funny and intended to be), I think they get away with it for the humour involved, AND the fact she isn't naked. But to expect to see anything "steamier" with a shrinking fetish theme, might just be a tad too hopeful in a mainstream production.

[shrinky]

I also liked the scene with her mom where she's suggesting she looks a few inches shorter and wants to measure her. Seems like we might see her partially shrunk at some point, mayby some oversized cloths stuff, etc...

Also, for all the giantess fans on Giantess City who were disappointed, I feel like they left the door open for her to be a giantess at some point. The possibilities are wide open. It's going to feel like a long week waiting for episode 4.

[Jeebus]

I feel like the Boys show universe just has a mandate to not show/limit female nudity and it's frustrating. Feels like a (pardon the pun) cocktease.

But to expect to see anything "steamier" with a shrinking fetish theme, might just be a tad too hopeful in a mainstream production.

You're both spot on. It seems to be Amazon's rule, especially with what we've seen from 'The Boys' and 'I'm A Virgo.' Men's nudity appears to be no problem, but not so for women.

Like others have said, it does come off as a sociopolitical statement from Amazon in a way. We can have a naked dude climbing inside another naked dudes dick, and we can have a woman riding a naked dick, but she has to be clothed. It's bonkers.

Also, for all the giantess fans on Giantess City who were disappointed, I feel like they left the door open for her to be a giantess at some point.

True, but I really hope they keep this to just SW for once, and let the moment resonate without distraction from the astronomically more popular crowd.

[eddiegiantman]

Episode 1 or 2 hints she's also into F/f so hope we see her ride a breast but who knows lol. We will see next week for she fares. The show is hinting a confrontation with her mom and maybe she can shrink at will by the end.

Seems to me it's one of those things (this series) that's slipped under the radar of the feminist movements, so far at least. So I wouldn't be counting my chickens anything better will develop from it. And as far as the penis scene is concerned (which I thought was quite funny and intended to be), I think they get away with it for the humour involved, AND the fact she isn't naked. But to expect to see anything "steamier" with a shrinking fetish theme, might just be a tad too hopeful in a mainstream production.

I'm guessing it's a nudity clause thing, she can be filmed behind but pasties and the such.

Also, for all the giantess fans on Giantess City who were disappointed, I feel like they left the door open for her to be a giantess at some point. The possibilities are wide open. It's going to feel like a long week waiting for episode 4.

Goodness stake, let us have something for once GTS Folk. You had Termite.

[pokonota]

You're both spot on. It seems to be Amazon's rule, especially with what we've seen from 'The Boys' and 'I'm A Virgo.' Men's nudity appears to be no problem, but not so for women.

It's not just Amazon, it seems to be an unwritten rule in all of American media today. I've heard some movie/tv critics mentioning this.

A prominent example is the latest Thor movie, where it's played as a joke that Thor is undressed against his will and exposed naked to a multitude, but if the same were done to Natalie Portman's character, there would've been a massive outrage

[eddiegiantman]

You're both spot on. It seems to be Amazon's rule, especially with what we've seen from 'The Boys' and 'I'm A Virgo.' Men's nudity appears to be no problem, but not so for women.

It's not just Amazon, it seems to be an unwritten rule in all of American media today. I've heard some movie/tv critics mentioning this.

A prominent example is the latest Thor movie, where it's played as a joke that Thor is undressed against his will and exposed naked to a multitude, but if the same were done to Natalie Portman's character, there would've been a massive outrage

Trueish but I think male butts are more common and more of a gag. Plus don't forget, that movie is CGI so that ass might be CG. I don't think it's a WOKE thing and more women having more control over their bodies in movies post MeToo.

Which that is good but also I feel we might have a lot of missed a lot of chances since.

[rscholar]

I have Prime and skimmed Emma's parts through the first 3 episodes. I don't know how much I want to get into this discussion since I feel there's a lot to unpack here, but this was a very interesting experience.

First and foremost, I agree with Min's assessment regarding impact: whatever your feelings about sexiness or preferences, what we just saw was monumental. The effects were fantastic, the character in question isn't a throwaway blank slate, and someone somewhere had the imagination and pull to have studio staff write, direct, and air a mainstream production in which a 2-inch tall woman straddles a guy's junk as a plot point! While I feel Emma's conflict, taken broadly, isn't reinventing the wheel - aspiring starlet harms herself to conform to expectations and erase her identity - the more I mull the symbolism and how everything - size-change, her social media persona, the purging trigger - intertwines with each other, the more impressed I am by what I feel is incredible attention to detail. I could write a mini essay on the themes here (many reviewers likely will and hit most of the points I'm thinking) especially as an SW fan, but that's not front and center on my mind right now. In any case, I'm sincerely happy this exists and I'm looking forward to seeing more.

That all being said...

Looking some early reviews for the show, I came across a headline that said in essence: "It's a show that should be having more fun." I thought that was weird considering some of the crazy stuff in The Boys universe and this was going to be about young adults with wild powers. I was prepared for angst and dark moments and some nasty things. What surprised me most, at least with Emma's story, is how goddamn bleak it all is. Yes, her intro with the gerbil is adorable and she's a sweetheart (if a bit dirtier than I pictured) with charisma and presence. And then *everything* revolves around how secretly miserable she is - the disappointing sex, constantly reminding people she has a real name, her asshole mom, her secret trigger being revealed. I knew I would feel sorry for her going into this, but I actually started feeling a bit guilty. I mean, outside the painful trigger process, does she even *like* having powers? Would she want to keep getting small if she no longer required a trigger? It was only during her stealth mission in ep 3 that I started seeing that adventurous spirit shrinking can provide and things brightened a little.

The sex scene in particular is emblematic for 2 reasons: I call this a legitimate plot point because it subtly informs more of Emma's struggle - Liam(?) only sees her as her celebrity persona and what her powers can offer him. His "fantasy," whatever the writers' internal intentions may have been, came across as him just stroking his ego - "Is this the biggest dick you've ever seen? Say it!" just came off, to me, like a jock thing. And remember, Emma presumably got nothing out of this: she was a toy and her need for pleasure meant nothing to him ("anatomy problems" my ass. Dude, you have a working pinky finger- use it!). This, to me, actually points to this *not* being some kind of writer's clandestine SW insert. Despite the sheer outrageousness of the scene, Emma being tiny is just a means to an end symbolically - the woman in question could have been a (normal sized) washed up 50+ year old actress pleasing a fan and the result would've been the same.

The 2nd reason, and honestly the most transcendent for me, was the scene before this when they're making out: I watched a young man ask in a shy bedroom voice if a young woman he wanted to have sex with would get small for him. In a real-life roleplaying session, that could be me. It was just so...real for a second....and then he turns out to be an asshole.

Again, this was fascinating to watch and I really want to see how Emma comes out of this (if she does die, I think she's fleshed out enough that it could be dignified and heroic). It's unique, haunting, clever, and it's given me a lot to think about.

***Finally remembers to breathe in and steps off soapbox***

[Jeebus]

I don't think it's a WOKE thing and more women having more control over their bodies in movies post MeToo.
Which that is good but also I feel we might have a lot of missed a lot of chances since.

Are those really different? 'Woke' isn't a bad thing. It just gets ridiculous when the pendulum has clearly swung so far in the other direction, this time in the literal form of swinging dicks on screen with the absence of virtually any women's nudity.

[theangelofdeath1986]

I like the whole grows if she eats thing much like Alice. Also the fact that's her actual height is great too

[eddiegiantman]

I have Prime and skimmed Emma's parts through the first 3 episodes. I don't know how much I want to get into this discussion since I feel there's a lot to unpack here, but this was a very interesting experience.

First and foremost, I agree with Min's assessment regarding impact: whatever your feelings about sexiness or preferences, what we just saw was monumental. The effects were fantastic, the character in question isn't a throwaway blank slate, and someone somewhere had the imagination and pull to have studio staff write, direct, and air a mainstream production in which a 2-inch tall woman straddles a guy's junk as a plot point! While I feel Emma's conflict, taken broadly, isn't reinventing the wheel - aspiring starlet harms herself to conform to expectations and erase her identity - the more I mull the symbolism and how everything - size-change, her social media persona, the purging trigger - intertwines with each other, the more impressed I am by what I feel is incredible attention to detail. I could write a mini essay on the themes here (many reviewers likely will and hit most of the points I'm thinking) especially as an SW fan, but that's not front and center on my mind right now. In any case, I'm sincerely happy this exists and I'm looking forward to seeing more.

That all being said...

Looking some early reviews for the show, I came across a headline that said in essence: "It's a show that should be having more fun." I thought that was weird considering some of the crazy stuff in The Boys universe and this was going to be about young adults with wild powers. I was prepared for angst and dark moments and some nasty things. What surprised me most, at least with Emma's story, is how goddamn bleak it all is. Yes, her intro with the gerbil is adorable and she's a sweetheart (if a bit dirtier than I pictured) with charisma and presence. And then *everything* revolves around how secretly miserable she is - the disappointing sex, constantly reminding people she has a real name, her asshole mom, her secret trigger being revealed. I knew I would feel sorry for her going into this, but I actually started feeling a bit guilty. I mean, outside the painful trigger process, does she even *like* having powers? Would she want to keep getting small if she no longer required a trigger? It was only during her stealth mission in ep 3 that I started seeing that adventurous spirit shrinking can provide and things brightened a little.

The sex scene in particular is emblematic for 2 reasons: I call this a legitimate plot point because it subtly informs more of Emma's struggle - Liam(?) only sees her as her celebrity persona and what her powers can offer him. His "fantasy," whatever the writers' internal intentions may have been, came across as him just stroking his ego - "Is this the biggest dick you've ever seen? Say it!" just came off, to me, like a jock thing. And remember, Emma presumably got nothing out of this: she was a toy and her need for pleasure meant nothing to him ("anatomy problems" my ass. Dude, you have a working pinky finger- use it!). This, to me, actually points to this *not* being some kind of writer's clandestine SW insert. Despite the sheer outrageousness of the scene, Emma being tiny is just a means to an end symbolically - the woman in question could have been a (normal sized) washed up 50+ year old actress pleasing a fan and the result would've been the same.

The 2nd reason, and honestly the most transcendent for me, was the scene before this when they're making out: I watched a young man ask in a shy bedroom voice if a young woman he wanted to have sex with would get small for him. In a real-life roleplaying session, that could be me. It was just so...real for a second....and then he turns out to be an asshole.

I think that's why EP3 is her at her focus episode because she meets Sam who doesn't see her as a sex object, he sees her as her. She does hint she is bi but the sex scene could also be her numbing her abuse from her mother who likely used her all her life. I do wonder if she does like the powers but hates how she becomes small. Which is why I think her being confident will bypass the way she shrinks. She smokes weed and has sex to numb all her issues up to being in school and trying to escape from her mother and numb the abuse she's been through.

There are notable layers to Emma and social media parents ruling their kids and forcing them to do content, shrinking and the way she does it is symbolism for body dysmorphia. And her having sex/drugs to numb years of abuse and feel a high. I think Marie and Adam are the only ones who acknowledge her existence and usefulness.

[Prof Sai]

So much TV and movies are so bleak. I can't watch much of anything anymore.