by i am insane » Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:35 pm
Kisupure wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:49 pm
i am insane wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:39 pm
I've thought about this kind of thing a lot, and to me, power can really be reduced to simply that: choice. The ability to make a decision and then do it, no matter what anyone or anything else may say.
This is really interesting. I know a lot of dominants cheekily describe themselves as control freaks, this seems to be in that vein. So it's more about the "ease of execution" than it is about something specifically interpersonal? So if you had a machine, for instance, or some kind of technology that effectively lets you have this kind of unilateral control of everything in your sphere of influence without the need to actually interact with any other human beings (tiny or otherwise), would that be even more preferable? You'd get to eliminate even having to delegate anything, tell people what to do, try to communicate what you actually want in a way that they don't screw up or misinterpret you; it would essentially remove all human error. Maybe the tradeoff is even that you wouldn't be able to use it around others, you'd have to do it in isolation. Sort of like a Dr. Manhattan on Mars kind of situation?
Hmm... I'm not sure I'd call it 'ease of execution' so much as 'ability to execute'. Take a more dramatic example, if I wanted to, say, throw a car out of my way or something (and oh, do I get that urge in traffic) I couldn't do that, period: and it's not society would frown on it stopping me, it's not that I'd get punished for doing it holding me back, it's the fact I'm just literally unable to pick up a multi-ton hunk of metal and throw it. Which, in a way, goes back to society itself; the idea of it is backed by lots and lots of people who act to protect it, and maybe you can be Rambo, and kick disproportionate amounts of ass, but after a certain point you will lose to society. Thing is, I'm not filled with, like, this overwhelming urge to rebel or whatever, the fact I
can't is what grates at me.
While I'd prefer a way that isn't so removed from me (because if nothing else, fiction has taught me a power or device separate from myself can possibly be used against me), I wouldn't be above using a machine or something like that, if it was available. I'm greedy, not stupid.
I'm a fun case when it comes to people; I'm not great with people, badly so, to be honest (oh, I can talk, and interact, and call, and small talk, and all the other bits and pieces, but I don't
want to so badly it almost hurts sometimes) and yet I know I'd need to be around people, or else I really would go insane.... and probably get depressed. I don't want to work with people, or direct them in their daily lives or whatever, so in theory just fucking off to the middle of nowhere alone sounds ideal, but in practice the lack of anyone to talk to would probably end badly. Also, begging, sucking up? It sounds fun, and maybe it is in certain circumstances, but I played Julius Caesar once in a little play, and early on (before I got stabbed to death, lol),
everyone sucked up to him, to me. And every time they did I wanted to fucking
cringe. I'm sure that, given time, I could get used to it, and almost certainly grow to enjoy it, judging by my own tastes, but I feel like I wouldn't naturally seek out a situation where that comes up.
I think my ideal situation, when it comes to something like what you're suggesting, is more like the idea of a fairy realm or something: I live somewhere separate from everyone and everything, and I'm able to do so indefinitely, but I can leave and go interact with people if I want, and bring people in, so I don't have to suffer the downsides of isolation, preferably with me bringing the power with me so i"m not helpless outside it (again fiction, and the evil overlord list, has helped me find the vulnerabilities in all sorts of our basic fantasies, and they bother me).
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I've thought about this kind of thing a lot, and to me, power can really be reduced to simply that: choice. The ability to make a decision and then do it, no matter what anyone or anything else may say.
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This is really interesting. I know a lot of dominants cheekily describe themselves as control freaks, this seems to be in that vein. So it's more about the "ease of execution" than it is about something specifically interpersonal? So if you had a machine, for instance, or some kind of technology that effectively lets you have this kind of unilateral control of everything in your sphere of influence without the need to actually interact with any other human beings (tiny or otherwise), would that be even more preferable? You'd get to eliminate even having to delegate anything, tell people what to do, try to communicate what you actually want in a way that they don't screw up or misinterpret you; it would essentially remove all human error. Maybe the tradeoff is even that you wouldn't be able to use it around others, you'd have to do it in isolation. Sort of like a Dr. Manhattan on Mars kind of situation?
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Hmm... I'm not sure I'd call it 'ease of execution' so much as 'ability to execute'. Take a more dramatic example, if I wanted to, say, throw a car out of my way or something (and oh, do I get that urge in traffic) I couldn't do that, period: and it's not society would frown on it stopping me, it's not that I'd get punished for doing it holding me back, it's the fact I'm just literally unable to pick up a multi-ton hunk of metal and throw it. Which, in a way, goes back to society itself; the idea of it is backed by lots and lots of people who act to protect it, and maybe you can be Rambo, and kick disproportionate amounts of ass, but after a certain point you will lose to society. Thing is, I'm not filled with, like, this overwhelming urge to rebel or whatever, the fact I [i]can't[/i] is what grates at me.
While I'd prefer a way that isn't so removed from me (because if nothing else, fiction has taught me a power or device separate from myself can possibly be used against me), I wouldn't be above using a machine or something like that, if it was available. I'm greedy, not stupid.
I'm a fun case when it comes to people; I'm not great with people, badly so, to be honest (oh, I can talk, and interact, and call, and small talk, and all the other bits and pieces, but I don't [i]want[/i] to so badly it almost hurts sometimes) and yet I know I'd need to be around people, or else I really would go insane.... and probably get depressed. I don't want to work with people, or direct them in their daily lives or whatever, so in theory just fucking off to the middle of nowhere alone sounds ideal, but in practice the lack of anyone to talk to would probably end badly. Also, begging, sucking up? It sounds fun, and maybe it is in certain circumstances, but I played Julius Caesar once in a little play, and early on (before I got stabbed to death, lol), [i]everyone[/i] sucked up to him, to me. And every time they did I wanted to fucking [i]cringe[/i]. I'm sure that, given time, I could get used to it, and almost certainly grow to enjoy it, judging by my own tastes, but I feel like I wouldn't naturally seek out a situation where that comes up.
I think my ideal situation, when it comes to something like what you're suggesting, is more like the idea of a fairy realm or something: I live somewhere separate from everyone and everything, and I'm able to do so indefinitely, but I can leave and go interact with people if I want, and bring people in, so I don't have to suffer the downsides of isolation, preferably with me bringing the power with me so i"m not helpless outside it (again fiction, and the evil overlord list, has helped me find the vulnerabilities in all sorts of our basic fantasies, and they bother me).