by DocRick » Mon Sep 11, 2023 1:17 pm
HHunter1 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 12:28 pm
Oh, and if your wondering why the Muslim world suddenly stopped being a technologies and progressive leader, it was the Crusades. Not falling behind. Not ignoring advances. Its hard to be a pillar of civilization when armed groups of plague carrying people raid and pillage your Libraries and places of learning every couple of years. I mean Harvard is a prestigious University but I think the quality of the education there would drop dramatically if randomly every few years it was pillaged by barbarian raiders.
So no, I don't like AI created works and will be sadden by watching it become more and more accepts as art as time passes.
HH1
Don't forget the Spanish Inquisition, the conquest of the Incas and Mayans, Nazi Germany, even modern day Liberals banning books like Tom Sawyer, Catcher in the Rye, and destroying statues of historical figures. It always seems ideological extremists believe they can change history by removing it from memory, but it always leads to repetition of the same mistakes and atrocities. I don't know if Prof Sai uses AI but her work is not meant to look "real" and it is very enjoyable for what it is. PacificRoast uses Photoshop and his work looks real and is very enjoyable for what it is. Other CGI (used as a generic term for any computer created art) varies from comic book trash to very nice images that are still obviously not created from photographs. If you like it, enjoy it. AI has its place, but those of us who like the "old ways", will hopefully stay with it to fill our niche in the hobby. People always seem to fear new technology. I hated it when we first switched from typewrites to computers to type our police reports, once I learned how to use them, I loved them. Same with the computers in our cruisers. I avoided getting one installed in my cruiser as long as possible, but once I learned how to use it, if the system was down, I didn't want to do any work !!
Sometimes history teaches us the skeptics were right, other times they were wrong. Bottom line, it's up to YOU which way you want to go and to keep your art form alive.
My first SW pictures were for an art project in the mid-1970's. I "cut and pasted", literally, pictures of women with giant alcohol bottles, and a few giant hands as a marketing concept. It went over very well, but as far as I know, no one ever connected it to "SW". Now, I could do the same thing with a computer. So, using advanced technology is not always bad, but yes, sometimes sticking to old ways is good too.
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Oh, and if your wondering why the Muslim world suddenly stopped being a technologies and progressive leader, it was the Crusades. Not falling behind. Not ignoring advances. Its hard to be a pillar of civilization when armed groups of plague carrying people raid and pillage your Libraries and places of learning every couple of years. I mean Harvard is a prestigious University but I think the quality of the education there would drop dramatically if randomly every few years it was pillaged by barbarian raiders.
So no, I don't like AI created works and will be sadden by watching it become more and more accepts as art as time passes.
HH1
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Don't forget the Spanish Inquisition, the conquest of the Incas and Mayans, Nazi Germany, even modern day Liberals banning books like Tom Sawyer, Catcher in the Rye, and destroying statues of historical figures. It always seems ideological extremists believe they can change history by removing it from memory, but it always leads to repetition of the same mistakes and atrocities. I don't know if Prof Sai uses AI but her work is not meant to look "real" and it is very enjoyable for what it is. PacificRoast uses Photoshop and his work looks real and is very enjoyable for what it is. Other CGI (used as a generic term for any computer created art) varies from comic book trash to very nice images that are still obviously not created from photographs. If you like it, enjoy it. AI has its place, but those of us who like the "old ways", will hopefully stay with it to fill our niche in the hobby. People always seem to fear new technology. I hated it when we first switched from typewrites to computers to type our police reports, once I learned how to use them, I loved them. Same with the computers in our cruisers. I avoided getting one installed in my cruiser as long as possible, but once I learned how to use it, if the system was down, I didn't want to do any work !! :lol: Sometimes history teaches us the skeptics were right, other times they were wrong. Bottom line, it's up to YOU which way you want to go and to keep your art form alive.
My first SW pictures were for an art project in the mid-1970's. I "cut and pasted", literally, pictures of women with giant alcohol bottles, and a few giant hands as a marketing concept. It went over very well, but as far as I know, no one ever connected it to "SW". Now, I could do the same thing with a computer. So, using advanced technology is not always bad, but yes, sometimes sticking to old ways is good too.