Re: Some Sai stuff sorted sortof
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:51 pm
A place to discuss those freshly shrunken and other minigirls
https://shrunken-women-board.com/phpBB3/
https://shrunken-women-board.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=36
Your own original work is just fine Sai.Prof Sai wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:16 pmHaa! I wish I could draw like that. It's someone's AI from DeviantArt.
https://www.deviantart.com/prettyfighte ... -965058281
Yes I can see the fun in that creation, and I wouldn't worry about legal stuff too much if it's just a one off. And let's face it, who's going to notice on DA anyway? There'll be an absolute plethora of work on there that's been stolen or borrowed from somewhere.Prof Sai wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:02 pmYea, but it is the photo montages and such that get all the likes.
I added a lawyer here to give a sense of scale.
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The original comes from a DeviantArt account, so I'm not sure what will happen if I put a mod back on DeviantArt. Technically since it is AI, it isn't copyrightable, but I actually do respect AI users more than that. The lawyer is just off of google image search, and so probably IS subjected to copyright. But I'll never know by whom. So we will see what happens.
I'm not a lawyer and I never played one on TV, but I believe to be considered copyright infringement, you have to claim the work as your own or make money off of it. I've found many original images that I've seen on other collager's postings so I would have to assume it's an accepted practice for forums like this one. As far as making a pornographic image of someone, i.e. "celebrity fakes", I doubt there is anything anyone can do about it as you will see many, many fakes on image sites on the 'Net. One DA has blocked me from his site, apparently for using one of his models in one of my stories. Fortunately, I found the same model on Bing so I still have images to continue my story. I did try to message him/her to ask permission, even though his site doesn't say you have to, but never got a response, just blocked.Prof Sai wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 4:04 amWell, I did notify the original AI artist on DA. I'm not clear on if this violates DA rules, which seem to be written against people just copying whole works and claiming they made them. I did once use a background from DA and the artist didn't like it. But that was CGI, not AI. (Of a Tardis interior, interestingly.)
They are based on real members of The Process forums that I used to roleplay with. A few of them are still around. OhZone, and Sailor Dolly, for example.Little Sally wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 9:20 pmWhat's the story behind these characters you create. Are they part of an imaginary family or group of friends?
What happens when they do that? You can't see their art anymore? I don't want to be blocked from my favorite posters.One DA has blocked me from his site, apparently for using one of his models in one of my stories.
This site was on my watchlist. It was removed and I can't get access to it anymore.Prof Sai wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:03 amThey are based on real members of The Process forums that I used to roleplay with. A few of them are still around. OhZone, and Sailor Dolly, for example.Little Sally wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 9:20 pmWhat's the story behind these characters you create. Are they part of an imaginary family or group of friends?
What happens when they do that? You can't see their art anymore? I don't want to be blocked from my favorite posters.One DA has blocked me from his site, apparently for using one of his models in one of my stories.
I always liked Oh Zone, she's one of the better people on that weird place.Prof Sai wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:03 amThey are based on real members of The Process forums that I used to roleplay with. A few of them are still around. OhZone, and Sailor Dolly, for example.Little Sally wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 9:20 pmWhat's the story behind these characters you create. Are they part of an imaginary family or group of friends?
What happens when they do that? You can't see their art anymore? I don't want to be blocked from my favorite posters.One DA has blocked me from his site, apparently for using one of his models in one of my stories.
There are a large number of stock providers on DA who are happy you use their work, providing they get due acknowledgement (and often include your efforts in their favourites). Can't see a problem with any other artist either, as long as you ask nicely and credit them.Prof Sai wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:35 pmI used to just grab random pics off of Google or Duck Duck Go. But now the best starting material is on DeviantArt, the same site where I post. This is different because now I can reasonably talk to the original artist, and perhaps receive an unhappy reply. AI images are supposedly not subject to copyright, but I still don't want to offend people. I guess there is nothing left but to do it and see what happens.
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I found pictures of my model on Bing Images, the same model and even has pictures of her that are NOT on the DA site that blocked me. Her pictures, same ones as DA and others not on that DA, are also found in MetArt and other sources, so I have my doubts the creator of the page is the photographer or owner of the pictures. Lots and lots of pages have the same picture as other pages, sometimes giving the name of the original artist, sometimes no wording at all, just a picture.Prof Sai wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:35 pmI used to just grab random pics off of Google or Duck Duck Go. But now the best starting material is on DeviantArt, the same site where I post. This is different because now I can reasonably talk to the original artist, and perhaps receive an unhappy reply. AI images are supposedly not subject to copyright, but I still don't want to offend people. I guess there is nothing left but to do it and see what happens.
How do I search for these stock providers? When I have asked AI artists to use their work, I received no reply.Little Sally wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:27 pmThere are a large number of stock providers on DA who are happy you use their work, providing they get due acknowledgement (and often include your efforts in their favourites). Can't see a problem with any other artist either, as long as you ask nicely and credit them.
I usually use the search option (next to the bell icon) top of your page. For instance, I've just typed in "stock archives" and got a few examples up, but if you want something more specific then maybe enter whatever image type you're looking for, followed by the word stock. Or just try entering exactly what the image is you want.Prof Sai wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 12:43 amHow do I search for these stock providers? When I have asked AI artists to use their work, I received no reply.Little Sally wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:27 pmThere are a large number of stock providers on DA who are happy you use their work, providing they get due acknowledgement (and often include your efforts in their favourites). Can't see a problem with any other artist either, as long as you ask nicely and credit them.
It is complex, and not always obvious. I'll look through dozens or hundreds of pics before settling on something that looks shrinkable. The model herself is most important. There needs to be something cute and vulnerable in the facial expression or pose. It can't just be your generic fashion model pose. That gets quite boring. Also technical things like full body, focus, lighting, can't use too wide a lens, can't be too hard to cut out, ext. Adding an extra term like "stock" to the search can drop the quality of results to nothing.Little Sally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 7:29 amI'm not sure what it is you're after regarding AI. Is it a subject figure featured in an artist's work, or is it a background or part of the picture, or the entire work itself?