Tribalism

[Josh the Cyborg]

Ya know part of the Issue and I think this is what Prof Sai was getting at. People no longer have friends with Widely different Opinions than them. Which is very unhealthy for a Soceity. It used to be it did not matter if you were Left or Right that so long as you had a few Common Interests you could be Friends.
Now days you can barely find anyone willing to even talk to someone with different Opinions than them.
I don't think explaining why this is Bad in Necessary but its bad for a multitude of Reasons including the fact that with the more we divide from eachother and both sides antagonize eachother. The Closer we get to a Civil War or Worse a complete Failure of the Union.
Then again I'm Imperialist so what do I know...

[DocRick]

Ya know part of the Issue and I think this is what Prof Sai was getting at. People no longer have friends with Widely different Opinions than them. Which is very unhealthy for a Soceity. It used to be it did not matter if you were Left or Right that so long as you had a few Common Interests you could be Friends.
Now days you can barely find anyone willing to even talk to someone with different Opinions than them.
I don't think explaining why this is Bad in Necessary but its bad for a multitude of Reasons including the fact that with the more we divide from eachother and both sides antagonize eachother. The Closer we get to a Civil War or Worse a complete Failure of the Union.
Then again I'm Imperialist so what do I know...

You are quite correct on your points. I am no longer willing to have conversations with anyone with any different opinions of politics as when they have no positive points to say about their candidates, (I'm referring more to the candidates and members of the Left in this example) they have no response but to attack their opposition or get angry. The boyfriend of a woman I've known for years blew up when I repeated something Biden said, screaming at me that I was a fucking liar. The bartender then calmly said that he heard Biden say it also, which prevented the boyfriend getting his ass beaten. I would have simply asked where or what speech/interview where it was heard. Most people tend to watch one news source only and only get the feed they choose to give you. I watch both the conservative news and the liberal news, so as an independent, I can see how both sides skew the news to their party's favor, though I will say, the conservative news does seem a little less biased as they do complement the opposition and criticize their party when it is due. What has shocked me lately is the liberal media, at least the more professional commentators (not "The View" ) seem to have turned on their Democratic candidates too. Even Harris's own campaign people who allowed her to make that blatantly anti-Catholic video that was show at the Al Smith Catholic Charities dinner seem to be wanting her to lose.

As far as the "civil war", it is the Left that is promoting so much more hatred towards the opposition and even their own followers when they don't follow blindly or they question them such as Biden's "If you don't vote or me, you ain't black" or Obama calling black males "misogynists" if they don't vote for Harris. So, if you are smart, you will or should have long ago, begin preparing for it, because it IS coming. Whether it is a short-lived disruption in our "normal" lives, or a total downfall of our society remains to be seen.

[Josh the Cyborg]

Well thing about Harris she only got to where she is because she was Selected to be Biden's Running Mate. She had to back out of Primaries because the Democratic Party Members would not Vote for her in the Primaries. So its kinda no wonder that even Liberal News Outfits don't like her and yeah the Conservative News is always the to use a phrase I'm not to sure fits, "the more Gentlemanly" fighter. Mostly goes for the Republican Party as a Whole its Partially why a large group of people can't take them Seriously. I won't state the Vulgars nicknames those of us in the Middle have given both Parties.

Also to Add context. I'm only an Imperialist because I think the Writing for Democracies and Republics is on the wall. As a History Buff I have noticed a Cycle. Republics/Democracies Tend to last 2 centuries maybe 3 before either Collapsing or turning into Rome or Oligarchist Athens. Its not that I want the System to Die its that I think the System has run its course and we are watching it befin to Eat itself. My hope is that a Nation in Some form can come out of it instead of it all Collapsing back into City States. Its also why I can't stand what is taught in our School systems that America was the first Republic/Democracy when no. Athens was the Earliest Democracy we have on Record and Rome was the Earliest Republic on Record and the Founding Fathers use Roman and Greek Pen Names. Thing is a lot of the things were are experiencing now are similair to what Happened during the last days of the Roman Republic, though Trump is no Julius Caesar and as Stated the Republican Party is to Polite compared to Caesarian loyalists only Political Parralel is the Senate claims to be for the People when they are either in the Pockets of the Hyper Rich or are Rich themselves. Though if Rome is America's Fate then... lets just hope a Pratorean Gaurd is never Formed. This Country is run on enough Greed already.

Also I don't take Communism VS Capitalism Seriously at all. Their the same thing when it Boils down to it. You can't have one without Implenting parts of the other.

[DocRick]

Again, I agree with most of what you post. Although Trump can be an ass, he is not "one of them" which draws me to him. He's also a fighter, he doesn't have to put up with all the crap and the "lawfare". He could just sail away on a yacht and live out his life, but he doesn't, which shows to me, he really does give a shit about the country and us people. Most of the current politicians, on both sides, are more into what they can get out of it, rather than what they can give back to the country.

Most Americans are fools. They vote from the heart rather than the brain. A candidate's color, sex or party mean nothing. Their policies and honesty mean everything and that lead me to only one possible candidate to vote for.

[Josh the Cyborg]

Again, I agree with most of what you post. Although Trump can be an ass, he is not "one of them" which draws me to him. He's also a fighter, he doesn't have to put up with all the crap and the "lawfare". He could just sail away on a yacht and live out his life, but he doesn't, which shows to me, he really does give a shit about the country and us people. Most of the current politicians, on both sides, are more into what they can get out of it, rather than what they can give back to the country.

Most Americans are fools. They vote from the heart rather than the brain. A candidate's color, sex or party mean nothing. Their policies and honesty mean everything and that lead me to only one possible candidate to vote for.

Most Americans don't Vote. Voters are 30%(thats rounding up) of the population.

[gundam]

Ya know part of the Issue and I think this is what Prof Sai was getting at. People no longer have friends with Widely different Opinions than them. Which is very unhealthy for a Soceity. It used to be it did not matter if you were Left or Right that so long as you had a few Common Interests you could be Friends.
Now days you can barely find anyone willing to even talk to someone with different Opinions than them.
I don't think explaining why this is Bad in Necessary but its bad for a multitude of Reasons including the fact that with the more we divide from eachother and both sides antagonize eachother. The Closer we get to a Civil War or Worse a complete Failure of the Union.
Then again I'm Imperialist so what do I know...

You are quite correct on your points. I am no longer willing to have conversations with anyone with any different opinions of politics as when they have no positive points to say about their candidates, (I'm referring more to the candidates and members of the Left in this example) they have no response but to attack their opposition or get angry. The boyfriend of a woman I've known for years blew up when I repeated something Biden said, screaming at me that I was a fucking liar. The bartender then calmly said that he heard Biden say it also, which prevented the boyfriend getting his ass beaten. I would have simply asked where or what speech/interview where it was heard. Most people tend to watch one news source only and only get the feed they choose to give you. I watch both the conservative news and the liberal news, so as an independent, I can see how both sides skew the news to their party's favor, though I will say, the conservative news does seem a little less biased as they do complement the opposition and criticize their party when it is due. What has shocked me lately is the liberal media, at least the more professional commentators (not "The View" ) seem to have turned on their Democratic candidates too. Even Harris's own campaign people who allowed her to make that blatantly anti-Catholic video that was show at the Al Smith Catholic Charities dinner seem to be wanting her to lose.

As far as the "civil war", it is the Left that is promoting so much more hatred towards the opposition and even their own followers when they don't follow blindly or they question them such as Biden's "If you don't vote or me, you ain't black" or Obama calling black males "misogynists" if they don't vote for Harris. So, if you are smart, you will or should have long ago, begin preparing for it, because it IS coming. Whether it is a short-lived disruption in our "normal" lives, or a total downfall of our society remains to be seen.

Here's the thing. You have a tendency to say things that aren't true. You once claimed Biden tried to stop the desegregation of schools which occured back when he a 12 year old kid. That's only one example. The fact you talk about fighting someone who called you out speaks volumes about you and is proof positive why the left or even the center can't have conversations with your guys. It isn't just the blatant lies, it's the fact violence and suppression is a default now. This "How dare you call me out" mentality. And social media is to blame. You guys have gotten complacent in saying the most offense off the wall shit you once wouldn't dare say to someone's face. The cat eating. That cat eating bullshit your guys ADMITTED to making up caused the KKK to pay a visit to Springfield Ohio and not a damn one of you has called it out. You get mad a bunch of hecklers get called out at a rally and people like you scream nonsense she's "anti-catholic" because of it. Meanwhile, Trump says his hecklers should either get their asses beat or arrested by the military.

And of course we can't forget the "Weaponizing the DOJ" horseshit. Here's a life hack. Don't want to be arrested then don't break the law. Devaluing property to avoid taxes is ILLEGAL. Claiming a porn star payoff as a tax break is ILLEGAL. Threating an elected official to commit voter fraud is hella ILLEGAL. The fact people have to say this shit is fuckin' amazing. If this was some regular guy this wouldn't even be discussion but because its Trump suddenly the rules don't apply. And this past week one of his supporters was arrested shooting the shit out of a DNC office for the THIRD time. Is Harris perfect? Not by a fucking mile. But goddamn the alternative. This past week Harris told a guy he didn't have to feel guilty about his religious beliefs conflicting with political conscience. She told him not to let one topic rule his decision. And Trump? "Enemies within". Beat hecklers. Mobilize the military to arrest political opponents. Oh and cosplaying as a McDonald's fry cook. As if McDonald's already doesn't have a clown.

Christ sakes he can't even support hurricane victims without being goddamn phony...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... icane.html




Well he finally got his wall...

[DocRick]

Obviously from reading your response and your misinterpretation of my words, you are uncapable of seeing anything beyond what you want to see so "Bye. Convo is over."

[Little Sally]

Keep it going guys, this is getting entertaining! (and after the unjust results of the total election votes cast in the UK, anything is)

But are both of your U.S. candidates not handicapped by the colour issue? If so I could fix that in a jiff on Photoshop.

A white candidate (instead of orange) and a black candidate (who doesn't pass as white) is what we'd get then.
Which I think would save a lot of confusion.

And hey, I hope ya'll get the one you're gonna vote for! (humour intended)

We'll be knowing soon enough either way.

[gundam]

Obviously from reading your response and your misinterpretation of my words, you are uncapable of seeing anything beyond what you want to see so "Bye. Convo is over."

Yeah that not how it works on a forum. How is it a misinterpretation when you're being quoted? You ran your mouth in a bar, got called out, and wanted to fight someone. No misinterpretation found here. What you don't like is it being spelled out for anyone here to see. Yeah I see why you don't want to keep going when its put into perspective.

Meanwhile since i posted earlier, Trump is now being sued by nuns for doxxing and accusing them of voter fraud. Now what kind of shit human being you got to be to be sued by nuns?

[Prof Sai]

:: Cries ::

[Hand-Holder]

I may get some haters for these words, but I can not stay quiet while so many nukes fall in the hands of a Narcisistic, Psychopath, Sociopath, I JUST CAN´T !!! US Wars affect my own Country here in the EU - Portugal !!!

I´m afraid I must inform all Americans that you did not elect President Trump, you elected Trump and ONLY TRUMP, the Narcisistic, the Psychopath and the Sociopath, is all you have in charge of all those Nuclear Weapons, no President Trump was elected, only TRUMP was elected, YOU DON´T HAVE A PRESIDENT, PERIOD...

And stop trying to guess what will happen, he wakes up and farts yellow and does one shit, the next week he wakes up and farts green and does the opposite shit...

And plus, just like in the past, he will keep firing his top Cabinet leaders like the spoiled unbearable brat he is, so stop guessing what his Cabinet will do next or will try to stop him from doing wrong... They will be fired morning yes, morning no, as soon as they disagree with him on anything... Not an opinion, is a fact, it happened in his previous term, he fired several Cabinet folk and fired at TOP BRASS level, not just secretaries...

There is only one thing I must recognize in Trump, contrary to other famous politicians, he did not hide one single WRONG FEATURE he has, he always showed publicly how Psychopath, how Narcisitic, how Sociopath HE IS !!! I GRANT HIM THAT !!!

I know many Americans voted in protest against the past establishment, but you don´t reject a bad piece of food by cutting your own throat and that is EXACTLY what you just did, now you just bleed, bleed, bleed !!! And so will WE here in the European Union, BLEED !!!

In sum - IS TOO LATE NOW, RUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN