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Wokeness discussion inspired by the Polly Pocket thread

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 3:39 pm
by Hand-Holder
user241 wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:23 am
Every time I hear about a potential new tiny movie, I get excited, and then immediately realize there's going to be ABSOLUTELY NO EROTIC STUFF involved.

It sucks that SW microphilia is so rarely accepted in mainstream society...
It is amazing how the producers of the first 2 King Kong movies (with Fay and Jessica), in ages when showing a nipple was almost jail time, managed to charge both movies with extremely erotic scenes, actually the whole movie is cleverly imbedded with sensuality !!!

Than a cold shower of wokness fell from the sky with the emptiness of King Kong with Naomi, yet blood and violence, yes, that is fine in movies

HATE WOKNESS, HATE IT DEEPLY !!!

Re: Lily Collins to play Polly Pocket in the movie adaptation

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:55 pm
by Firewall
I was hopeful until I saw Lena Dunham was attached.

Re: Lily Collins to play Polly Pocket in the movie adaptation

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:02 am
by vash!!!
Hand-Holder wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2023 3:39 pm
user241 wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:23 am
Every time I hear about a potential new tiny movie, I get excited, and then immediately realize there's going to be ABSOLUTELY NO EROTIC STUFF involved.

It sucks that SW microphilia is so rarely accepted in mainstream society...
It is amazing how the producers of the first 2 King Kong movies (with Fay and Jessica), in ages when showing a nipple was almost jail time, managed to charge both movies with extremely erotic scenes, actually the whole movie is cleverly imbedded with sensuality !!!

Than a cold shower of wokness fell from the sky with the emptiness of King Kong with Naomi, yet blood and violence, yes, that is fine in movies

HATE WOKNESS, HATE IT DEEPLY !!!
This has literally nothing to do with wokeness, but go on..

Re: Lily Collins to play Polly Pocket in the movie adaptation

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:48 pm
by Hand-Holder
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This has literally nothing to do with wokeness, but go on..
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Call it puritanism, whatever, you know what I mean, the issue is not its name, the issue is a fact everyone complaints in the SW world, and the issue is - There are many mainstream SW scenes and works that are too much politically correct and never incur into sensuality or eroticism

Re: Lily Collins to play Polly Pocket in the movie adaptation

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:58 pm
by DocRick
Hand-Holder wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2023 3:39 pm


It is amazing how the producers of the first 2 King Kong movies (with Fay and Jessica), in ages when showing a nipple was almost jail time, managed to charge both movies with extremely erotic scenes, actually the whole movie is cleverly imbedded with sensuality !!!

The scene in King Kong '33 when Fay Wray falls into the ocean during her rescue, shows nearly complete nudity. That scene had been cut sometimes during my hundred or so times I've watched it, depending on what network is showing it,

Re: Lily Collins to play Polly Pocket in the movie adaptation

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:25 pm
by vash!!!
Hand-Holder wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:48 pm
This has literally nothing to do with wokeness, but go on..
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Call it puritanism, whatever, you know what I mean, the issue is not its name, the issue is a fact everyone complaints in the SW world, and the issue is - There are many mainstream SW scenes and works that are too much politically correct and never incur into sensuality or eroticism
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No, I dont know what you mean actually. Wokeness is a trait associated with progressive values. Think black actors for white characters, but also showing all kinds of erotic on media, such as Gay, trans etc.

No boobies on television is literally a conservative value. You are using "Wokeness" in a completely wrong and confusing context, just because it's a cool buzzword. You hate wokeness because no boobies? if Anything, if it wasnt for wokeness, there would be no chance for you to see sensuality or eroticism at all.

Re: Lily Collins to play Polly Pocket in the movie adaptation

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:34 pm
by Hand-Holder
vash!!! wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:25 pm
Hand-Holder wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:48 pm
No, I dont know what you mean actually. Wokeness is a trait associated with progressive values. Think black actors for white characters, but also showing all kinds of erotic on media, such as Gay, trans etc.
It is actually very easy to understand what I mean

In Portugal we have a saying that goes like this, difficult to translate - For a good interpreter only half word is needed !!!

Re: Lily Collins to play Polly Pocket in the movie adaptation

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:56 am
by Bobascher
Hand-Holder wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:34 pm
It is actually very easy to understand what I mean

In Portugal we have a saying that goes like this, difficult to translate - For a good interpreter only half word is needed !!!
That doesn’t help when you use the language wrong. The films were reflections of the periods of time they were produced and the style of film they were. Kong 1933 was a horror movie and women were only beginning to gain some body autonomy. There still was certainly no nudity in the movie, regardless of what people remember. It also shows a very backwards, frankly racist, image of the wild savages, a la Heart of Darkness. It was also created before films were coded for content.

In 2005, the film was an adventure film, so having their characters raped or murdered would not align with the genre. Further, it could cause it to be rated R instead of PG-13 drastically reducing the population who can watch it.

While these films had a message, they were apolitical and were produced to make money. They weren’t designed to be porn for anyone. If you enjoy them in that way, fine, but honestly expecting them to be so is unrealistic and a tad gross.

I certainly wouldn’t want to be in a theater with my kids while someone is getting their rocks off.

Re: Lily Collins to play Polly Pocket in the movie adaptation

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:05 am
by vash!!!
Hand-Holder wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:34 pm
vash!!! wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:25 pm
Hand-Holder wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:48 pm
No, I dont know what you mean actually. Wokeness is a trait associated with progressive values. Think black actors for white characters, but also showing all kinds of erotic on media, such as Gay, trans etc.
It is actually very easy to understand what I mean

In Portugal we have a saying that goes like this, difficult to translate - For a good interpreter only half word is needed !!!
It's not easy to understand at all. It's like saying I love to swim in Fire, when you actually mean you love swimming in water.

Conservative Correctness = Conservative, censorship, no nudity, no blood, no cursing etc.
Woke = progressive, no limitations on gender relations, race swapping, nudity, LGBTQ etc.

Dont copy terminology blindly just because it's the latest buzzword you read online, if English is not your native language. That's just confusing for everyone for no reason.

Re: Lily Collins to play Polly Pocket in the movie adaptation

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:34 pm
by Raso719
I'm lost. Is someone arguing that not putting something sexy in a children's movie that's meant to be a 90-120 minute commercial for a children's toy is "woke"? I thought the anti-woke crowd thought anything moderately sexual in children's books or TV was tantamount to grooming children into becoming sex slaves?
Like, come on guys. If you're not gonna define the word woke at least don't define it consistently.

Re: Lily Collins to play Polly Pocket in the movie adaptation

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:04 pm
by The Grither
Raso719 wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:34 pm
I'm lost. Is someone arguing that not putting something sexy in a children's movie that's meant to be a 90-120 minute commercial for a children's toy is "woke"? I thought the anti-woke crowd thought anything moderately sexual in children's books or TV was tantamount to grooming children into becoming sex slaves?
Like, come on guys. If you're not gonna define the word woke at least don't define it consistently.
The anti-woke idiots don’t really know what the word means, they just know what their leaders tell them and that’s “woke = bad”

It’s sad to see that right wing culture war bullshit leak into this site too.

Re: Lily Collins to play Polly Pocket in the movie adaptation

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:32 pm
by Hand-Holder
You guys pick up a simple sentence, put them out of context, build whole new sentences with pieces of different people sentences and engage in a philosophical bullshit battle on what was just one simple sentence

I´m too old for your shit, LOL, go back to the initial post and comment and do something that is quite useful, rare in these days, but useful - INTERPRETRATION

You are seeing ghosts where they do not exist, so fucking tired of people who just want to fight, go have some sex and grow up !!!

Re: Lily Collins to play Polly Pocket in the movie adaptation

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:07 pm
by Aussie_Lurker
Hand-Holder wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:32 pm
You guys pick up a simple sentence, put them out of context, build whole new sentences with pieces of different people sentences and engage in a philosophical bullshit battle on what was just one simple sentence

I´m too old for your shit, LOL, go back to the initial post and comment and do something that is quite useful, rare in these days, but useful - INTERPRETRATION

You are seeing ghosts where they do not exist, so fucking tired of people who just want to fight, go have some sex and grow up !!!
I'm too old for your anti-woke shit. You got correctly called out for engaging in the typical "everything I don't like is 'woke'" trope, & now you're mad about it & are desperately trying to backpedal. Anyway, aren't you late for a Trump rally or something?

Re: Lily Collins to play Polly Pocket in the movie adaptation

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:53 am
by Hand-Holder
WOKE WOKE WOKE, DOWN WITH WOKE, CALL THINGS WHAT THEY ARE AND TREAT THINGS AS THEY ARE, DOWN WITH WOKE WOKE WOKE !!!

Let these words sink in, although truly no one expects anything to sink in on WOKES, but we can always try !!!

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Re: Lily Collins to play Polly Pocket in the movie adaptation

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 11:33 am
by Torper8
Hand-Holder wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:53 am
WOKE WOKE WOKE, DOWN WITH WOKE, CALL THINGS WHAT THEY ARE AND TREAT THINGS AS THEY ARE, DOWN WITH WOKE WOKE WOKE !!!

Let these words sink in, although truly no one expects anything to sink in on WOKES, but we can always try !!!

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Sir, this is an SW site

Re: Lily Collins to play Polly Pocket in the movie adaptation

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 11:58 am
by kira123
Okay, I have just about enough of this!
This whole thing has gone on long enough and getting way out of hand on BOTH ENDS. Woke, anti-woke, I don't freakin' care about that anymore! I just want to spend my days hanging out here in my favorite SW site sharing, talking, and looking/waiting for good SW stuff without any drama or BS whatsoever.
Seriously, this is getting SO ridiculous, it's like I'm seeing the same BS from Giantess City all over again. This exactly why I left from that hell hole in the first place. So that I don't have to deal with anymore craziness like this. And over a MOVIE no less. If you want to keep fighting over this, go take that shit up on Twitter, X, or whatever. I don't care. This is ain't the place for any of that.
This shit needs to end NOW, understand? Just end this now so we can all move it along! Please!

Re: Lily Collins to play Polly Pocket in the movie adaptation

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:46 pm
by DocRick
Getting upset over something you see on social media is like getting angry about a pile of dog crap on the sidewalk and then stepping in it. I have this marvelous device on my mouse......the scroll wheel.

Re: Lily Collins to play Polly Pocket in the movie adaptation

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:37 pm
by Aussie_Lurker
Torper8 wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 11:33 am
Hand-Holder wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:53 am
WOKE WOKE WOKE, DOWN WITH WOKE, CALL THINGS WHAT THEY ARE AND TREAT THINGS AS THEY ARE, DOWN WITH WOKE WOKE WOKE !!!

Let these words sink in, although truly no one expects anything to sink in on WOKES, but we can always try !!!

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Sir, this is an SW site
I think Hand-holder's tiny brain has suffered a massive stroke or something. He is so used to seeing everything he doesn't like as "woke", that its caused his sad little brain to short-circuit. His latest offering is exactly what I'd expect from a Trumplethinskin. He seems too dumb to acknowledge that 99% of all censorship has been driven by the Conservative Right.....the anti-woke brigade who now love to scream about "Freedom of Speech"....but only for themselves.
Meanwhile, how creepy is it that a guy wants sexualized images in a show clearly aimed at children? Should Hand-holder be on some kind of watch-list or something?

Re: Lily Collins to play Polly Pocket in the movie adaptation

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:08 pm
by vash!!!
Hand-Holder wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:53 am

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Werent you the one crying Injustice for no pr0n being shown in kids movies these days? Not realising you being woke by your own definition. The irony.

Re: Lily Collins to play Polly Pocket in the movie adaptation

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 5:13 pm
by Hand-Holder
Aren´t you tired of squirming ? Life is so dam short... :)

Re: Lily Collins to play Polly Pocket in the movie adaptation

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:51 pm
by The Grither
Hand-Holder wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:53 am
WOKE WOKE WOKE, DOWN WITH WOKE, CALL THINGS WHAT THEY ARE AND TREAT THINGS AS THEY ARE, DOWN WITH WOKE WOKE WOKE !!!

Let these words sink in, although truly no one expects anything to sink in on WOKES, but we can always try !!!

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You say you’re too old for this shit and then you throw a tantrum like a child

Re: Lily Collins to play Polly Pocket in the movie adaptation

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:52 pm
by Aussie_Lurker
The Grither wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:51 pm
Hand-Holder wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:53 am
WOKE WOKE WOKE, DOWN WITH WOKE, CALL THINGS WHAT THEY ARE AND TREAT THINGS AS THEY ARE, DOWN WITH WOKE WOKE WOKE !!!

Let these words sink in, although truly no one expects anything to sink in on WOKES, but we can always try !!!

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You say you’re too old for this shit and then you throw a tantrum like a child
Its the usual behaviour of Trumpanzees who blame everything bad in their life on "woke" 😆

Re: Lily Collins to play Polly Pocket in the movie adaptation

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:00 pm
by Bloodthirstybutcher
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As much as I’m enjoying the drama, does anyone remember when this was a Polly Pocket thread?🤣

Re: Lily Collins to play Polly Pocket in the movie adaptation

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:20 pm
by chocolatejr9
Bloodthirstybutcher wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:00 pm
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As much as I’m enjoying the drama, does anyone remember when this was a Polly Pocket thread?🤣
This was a Polly Pocket thread?

Re: Lily Collins to play Polly Pocket in the movie adaptation

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:43 am
by Hand-Holder
Lol, I was simply agreeing with someone that was fearing we would not get a single hint of Eros, JUST THAT !!!