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4 Years in here !!!

Post by Hand-Holder » Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:59 pm

I was, I´m and I will always be, an AVID CONSUMER of SW content

But it was mostly this Community that inspired me to become also a CREATOR of SW Content, good or bad, nevertheless it helped a lot !!!

WHAT A RIDE IT HAS BEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

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Re: 4 Years in here !!!

Post by Little Sally » Sun Dec 01, 2024 12:08 am

Hand-Holder wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:59 pm
I was, I´m and I will always be, an AVID CONSUMER of SW content

But it was mostly this Community that inspired me to become also a CREATOR of SW Content, good or bad, nevertheless it helped a lot !!!

WHAT A RIDE IT HAS BEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Salut to everyone !!!
I think you deserve another four years at least before parole is discussed.

This is the safest place for you! :lol:

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Re: 4 Years in here !!!

Post by Hand-Holder » Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:43 pm

Little Sally wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 12:08 am
Hand-Holder wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:59 pm
I was, I´m and I will always be, an AVID CONSUMER of SW content

But it was mostly this Community that inspired me to become also a CREATOR of SW Content, good or bad, nevertheless it helped a lot !!!

WHAT A RIDE IT HAS BEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Salut to everyone !!!
I think you deserve another four years at least before parole is discussed.

This is the safest place for you! :lol:
I happily run and jump like a Christmas Child, into my cell - Screw "paroles" - I have an airplane hangar as a cell, where I can comfortably play with all the minis I want

HURRAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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Re: 4 Years in here !!!

Post by bobvan2 » Sun Dec 01, 2024 5:36 pm

I think I just passed 2 been everywhere else

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Re: 4 Years in here !!!

Post by Hand-Holder » Sun Dec 01, 2024 6:04 pm

bobvan2 wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 5:36 pm
I think I just passed 2 been everywhere else
Yes, but you are an SW Living Legend, already !!! :) :) :)
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Re: 4 Years in here !!!

Post by bobvan2 » Sun Dec 01, 2024 10:15 pm

Hand-Holder wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 6:04 pm
bobvan2 wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 5:36 pm
I think I just passed 2 been everywhere else
Yes, but you are an SW Living Legend, already !!! :) :) :)
Who sold out to AI LOL :D :D :D

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Re: 4 Years in here !!!

Post by Little Sally » Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:01 am

Hand-Holder wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 6:04 pm
Yes, but you are an SW Living Legend, already !!! :) :) :)
bobvan2 wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 10:15 pm
Who sold out to AI LOL :D :D :D
And I say let's proclaim both of you legends! (in your own lunchtimes) :D

And no parole from here for either of you! :lol:

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Re: 4 Years in here !!!

Post by Elana » Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:39 am

bobvan2 wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 5:36 pm
I think I just passed 2 been everywhere else
How can you have passed 2.
You only have a single annual star :P
(Also the join date lists march '23 :P )
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Re: 4 Years in here !!!

Post by Hand-Holder » Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:58 pm

Little Sally wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:01 am
Hand-Holder wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 6:04 pm
Yes, but you are an SW Living Legend, already !!! :) :) :)
bobvan2 wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 10:15 pm
Who sold out to AI LOL :D :D :D
And I say let's proclaim both of you legends! (in your own lunchtimes) :D

And no parole from here for either of you! :lol:
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Re: 4 Years in here !!!

Post by Hand-Holder » Mon Dec 02, 2024 1:00 pm

bobvan2 wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 10:15 pm
Hand-Holder wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 6:04 pm
bobvan2 wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 5:36 pm
I think I just passed 2 been everywhere else
Yes, but you are an SW Living Legend, already !!! :) :) :)
Who sold out to AI LOL :D :D :D
Nahhh, you are a Rendering Master, you just like to keep up with tech in a healthy way...
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Re: 4 Years in here !!!

Post by bobvan2 » Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:45 pm

Elana wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:39 am
bobvan2 wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 5:36 pm
I think I just passed 2 been everywhere else
How can you have passed 2.
You only have a single annual star :P
(Also the join date lists march '23 :P )
Cause I lost my 1st password and had to re join :roll:

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Re: 4 Years in here !!!

Post by bobvan2 » Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:46 pm

Hand-Holder wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:58 pm
Little Sally wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:01 am
Hand-Holder wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 6:04 pm
Yes, but you are an SW Living Legend, already !!! :) :) :)
bobvan2 wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 10:15 pm
Who sold out to AI LOL :D :D :D
And I say let's proclaim both of you legends! (in your own lunchtimes) :D

And no parole from here for either of you! :lol:
Thanks, as soon as I get a new powerful computer I will get back to Honey Select content prduction, with Full Mods and leave AI a bit apart to evolve what it clearly needs to evolve
Other bonus with AI I don't need to build anymore $5K PC's

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Re: 4 Years in here !!!

Post by Elana » Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:43 pm

bobvan2 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:45 pm
...
Cause I lost my 1st password and had to re join :roll:
Ridiculous!
You clearly are just a clone, confusing the memory of the original with your own
(The 2 in the name is a dead giveaway :P )
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Re: 4 Years in here !!!

Post by bobvan2 » Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:18 pm

Elana wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:43 pm
bobvan2 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:45 pm
...
Cause I lost my 1st password and had to re join :roll:
Ridiculous!
You clearly are just a clone, confusing the memory of the original with your own
(The 2 in the name is a dead giveaway :P )
:lol: :mrgreen: )~

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Re: 4 Years in here !!!

Post by sallyfourth » Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:30 pm

Gratz...
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Re: 4 Years in here !!!

Post by Hand-Holder » Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:24 pm

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Gratz...
Sally, Im a DEVOTED fan of your work... I´m curious, what is your take on AI ? Or you haven´t thought much about it yet ???
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Re: 4 Years in here !!!

Post by sallyfourth » Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:03 am

Hand-Holder wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:24 pm
sallyfourth wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:30 pm
Gratz...
Sally, Im a DEVOTED fan of your work... I´m curious, what is your take on AI ? Or you haven´t thought much about it yet ???
Well, that's a pretty fair question and I think it deserves a thoughtful and nuisanced answer. But what the hell. I'll take a crack at it anyway.

First, I think we need to consider visual images generated by "AI" and text generated by "AI" as separate topics. It is my understanding that the software currently being touted as AI has absolutely nothing to with artificial intelligence; e.g. self-educating/ machine learning such as a neutral network.
Broadly, Generative AI is:
1) a lexical analyzer that can read your prompt and more or less decipher what you asking for.
2) a search engine that can search for images that contain visual elements that have been identified by the lexical analyzer (see 1 above)
3) image editing software that combines selected elements from the images gathered by the search engine ( see 2 ) and applies effects and modifications to these elements based on the prompt.
There probably is some elements of machine learning going on as egregious mistakes in seen in the rejected images seem to appear less and less frequently; e.g. they appear to understand how hands work a little bit better. And they do a decent job of changing the visual elements enough to avoid copyright infringement.

Text generative software is great for drafting the executive summary for the 400 page report that you just wrote. For creative writing, it sucks ass. I will die on that hill.

With that said, I have seen a few images that really did impress me. It can produce some stunning effects.

My concern is the cost. Writing a text prompt for an AI does not make you an artist. A text prompt is not controlling the media in the way an artist does. The AI takes someone else's work, copies it and changes it enough to keep your ass from being sued

In the end, I fear it's very likely that AI images may ultimately make it impossible for artists and authors to make a living. Then where will we be, when there's nothing new to steal? Look how awful movies and TV scripts and visual effect have become recently. It's not an accident.

But no, I suppose I really haven't thought very much about it.

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Post by DocRick » Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:56 am

sallyfourth wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:03 am

There probably is some elements of machine learning going on as egregious mistakes in seen in the rejected images seem to appear less and less frequently; e.g. they appear to understand how hands work a little bit better.

Just don't start asking for schematics of the T-800. There are some things we DON'T computers to learn how to do........

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Post by Hand-Holder » Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:40 pm

sallyfourth wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:03 am
Hand-Holder wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:24 pm
sallyfourth wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:30 pm
Gratz...
Sally, Im a DEVOTED fan of your work... I´m curious, what is your take on AI ? Or you haven´t thought much about it yet ???
Well, that's a pretty fair question and I think it deserves a thoughtful and nuisanced answer. But what the hell. I'll take a crack at it anyway.

First, I think we need to consider visual images generated by "AI" and text generated by "AI" as separate topics. It is my understanding that the software currently being touted as AI has absolutely nothing to with artificial intelligence; e.g. self-educating/ machine learning such as a neutral network.
Broadly, Generative AI is:
1) a lexical analyzer that can read your prompt and more or less decipher what you asking for.
2) a search engine that can search for images that contain visual elements that have been identified by the lexical analyzer (see 1 above)
3) image editing software that combines selected elements from the images gathered by the search engine ( see 2 ) and applies effects and modifications to these elements based on the prompt.
There probably is some elements of machine learning going on as egregious mistakes in seen in the rejected images seem to appear less and less frequently; e.g. they appear to understand how hands work a little bit better. And they do a decent job of changing the visual elements enough to avoid copyright infringement.

Text generative software is great for drafting the executive summary for the 400 page report that you just wrote. For creative writing, it sucks ass. I will die on that hill.

With that said, I have seen a few images that really did impress me. It can produce some stunning effects.

My concern is the cost. Writing a text prompt for an AI does not make you an artist. A text prompt is not controlling the media in the way an artist does. The AI takes someone else's work, copies it and changes it enough to keep your ass from being sued

In the end, I fear it's very likely that AI images may ultimately make it impossible for artists and authors to make a living. Then where will we be, when there's nothing new to steal? Look how awful movies and TV scripts and visual effect have become recently. It's not an accident.

But no, I suppose I really haven't thought very much about it.

seeya
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